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(Originaly from Kaisa Lakala)
Dear Alkis and everybody,
I can see that there has been a long time since our last emails about this subject: I apology for my long silence.
I asked our National Contact Point about your concern. She answered, that the sentences on page 16 (here below), meant thatin case there is already an existing ESFRI, it should be taken into account. But in case there is not, we could go ahead. The aim is not to overlap with existing ESFRI.
"In both cases, Integrating Activities are expected to duly take into account all relevant ESFRI research infrastructures to exploit synergies and to ensure that rationally designed, comprehensive and coherent overall concepts for European Infrastructures are being pursued.
As the scope of an integrating activity is to ensure coordination and integration between all the key European infrastructures in a given field and to avoid duplication of effort, at most one proposal per area is expected to be funded."
If I understood that no discussion were going on about this at Izana. I discussed this with Paul Eriksen at the NOG meeting in May. Paul told that ACTRIS is going to apply continuation in the same call, so they would be strong competitors. We thought maybe it is not a good idea to try to compete with them.
Thank you for suggesting we could have a leading role here at FMI, but unfortunately we all are on holidays from now until August, and will not have time for preparation of this proposal. Is anybody else interested, John? The dead line is already September 2nd, 2014.
Or have somebody else heard more news regarding this call?
Best regards,
Kaisa
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(originaly by Alkis Bais)
Dear Kaisa,
Thanks you for further exploring the possibility for a proposal to H2020.
Personally I would certainly be interested to take part and contribute to
its preparation. Probably the same stands for many of the Brewer stations
operating in Europe. Your ideas are sound and I think it is a good starting
point for populating the consortium and setting up the objectives of the
proposal. I guess we are probably closer to (1) 'Starting Communities' type
of activity.
I am a bit concerned from the first paragraph on page 16, stating that
"Integrating Activities are expected to duly take into account all relevant
ESFRI research infrastructures...". The Brewer network is not an ESRFI RI
and to my know ledge we cannot link it with any other of that type. However,
since you NCP encouraged you to submit a proposal, I think it would be
reasonable to give it a try. My personal feeling is that you (or generally
FMI) should take the lead of this endeavor.
Unfortunately I will not be at Izana at the COST meeting, but I hope that
there should be some opportunity for those attending the meeting to have
short discussion on this.
Best regards
Alkis
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(Originaly by Kaisa Lakala)
Dear all,
thank you for the good meeting in Thessaloniki. Unfortunately I am not able to participate to that of Izana, so I want to share
here by email my thoughts concerning the H2020 call we briefly discussed in Thessaloniki.
I asked more information about the Infrasrtucture call INFRAIA-1-2014/2015 from our National Point of Contact, NCP:s.
As answer I got, that it is not like those in the past, where only visitors got money. This time all actions which are made to strengthen the co-operation
between European researchers is wellcome. Money should be available to build/customize/work in the infrastructure. I think it could be good if
someone else also ask from their National Contact Points (NCP), how they see the possibility to get financed by INFRAIA.
Our NCP answered "go on for a proposal".
One idea is to build the Brewer network (+ maybe other UV stations) as being an European infrastructure, which could serve other scientific
communities: We can offer spectral data, spectral and broadband time series to -validate satellite measurements -Health authorities, health research:
good and bad impact of UV on human health (cancer, vitamin D, immunosupression ) -observe UV trends at different latitudes, under the
changing climate and this can be used to take actions concerning human health and ecosystems -UV data and infrastructure for biological studies -
provide infrastructure/data for study of UV effect on materials (FMI has already European contacts with material industry)
-we could improve our existing UV stations/laboratories towards the needs of effect study research.
-There is a need for a large infrastructure with stations at different geographical locations, different meteorological conditions, as the UV impacts are connected to regional climate conditions.
-We could pretty easily get SMSs involved: material effect industry, Kipp&Zone, J. Shreder, D-vitamin pills, sun cream.....
There already exist at least one Research Infrastructure(RI) with near similar idea in climate monitoring called ACTRIS, see: http://ec.europa.eu/research/i.....actris.pdf.
What do you think? Could you maybe discuss this in Izana? The dead line of the call is already on 2.9.2014.
Please find attached the Work program of the call. See page 14. Also
attached some ideas I presented in the meeting of Thessaloniki.
Best regards,
Kaisa
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